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Post by bigbg25 on Sept 25, 2012 9:15:31 GMT -5
I used to stalk this board for updated information and good opinions, from both sides, but now it's no new information, and all name calling. It's like watching childen, and it's ridiculous.
Just thought I'd throw my two cents in since everyone has no qualms about putting their opinion out there.
I'm not sure sure why there's a need for the continued bashing on the board. Anyone still holding the stock knows the risks involved with owning and they are STILL holding it so save your breathe.
Sure, the future looks bleek, but it's RISK/ REWARD and those holding have already weighed those risks.
As for now, it's a waiting game, and the only people who know it's future aren't letting anything leak so just let it be. It may be 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year. But the negativity on this board isn't changing anything.
GL to all!
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 25, 2012 9:19:44 GMT -5
I used to stalk this board for updated information and good opinions, from both sides, but now it's no new information, and all name calling. It's like watching childen, and it's ridiculous. Just thought I'd throw my two cents in since everyone has no qualms about putting their opinion out there. I'm not sure sure why there's a need for the continued bashing on the board. Anyone still holding the stock knows the risks involved with owning and they are STILL holding it so save your breathe. Sure, the future looks bleek, but it's RISK/ REWARD and those holding have already weighed those risks. As for now, it's a waiting game, and the only people who know it's future aren't letting anything leak so just let it be. It may be 1 week, 1 month, or 1 year. But the negativity on this board isn't changing anything. GL to all! ROFLMAO Then you MUST BE NEW. Since this is nothing compared to the way it used to be...not merely here but as well at the old Yahoo board.
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Post by littlefred747 on Sept 25, 2012 9:46:41 GMT -5
Boy Howdy! NY....keep hangin!
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Post by bigbg25 on Sept 25, 2012 9:46:57 GMT -5
nope.. been here since the beginning. At least there was new information and discussion mixed in previously with all the bloodshed haha.
and yahoo is a joke.
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 25, 2012 9:57:07 GMT -5
nope.. been here since the beginning. At least there was new information and discussion mixed in previously with all the bloodshed haha. and yahoo is a joke. As I've stated, there's been very little bloodshed as of late on this board compared with the past. SBG and his newly appointed moderator(s) have done a bang up job of keeping the peace around here.
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 10:28:57 GMT -5
nope.. been here since the beginning. At least there was new information and discussion mixed in previously with all the bloodshed haha. and yahoo is a joke. This is what happens when the bashers are allowed to post the same thing 100 times a day (Kid) or are allowed to post pages (Foxy) trying to confuse you. They just clutter the board and do not allow for quality information to be passed...be it good or bad.
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2012 10:36:50 GMT -5
This is not Kids fault, or Arctics fault, or anyone's fault.
There is no news.
There is no PR being put out by company.
This company is unreal!
You would think they would be putting out an aggressive consistent marketing approach to reassure their customers that they will be here for the future, which would also give the market place info that things are ok.
Its called reassurance that they care, that they care about how the market and the shareholder perceives them.
SBG
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 10:55:30 GMT -5
This is not Kids fault, or Arctics fault, or anyone's fault. There is no news. There is no PR being put out by company. This company is unreal! You would think they would be putting out an aggressive consistent marketing approach to reassure their customers that they will be here for the future, which would also give the market place info that things are ok. Its called reassurance that they care, that they care about how the market and the shareholder perceives them. SBG The PPS is not their fault but making this and the old Yahoo message board a joke is. Them and the other bashers that post the same thing 100 times a day cluttering the board making it hard to read. They should be directed to the bashers section if they keep posting the same thing so many times a day. I agree that there should be a free flow of info from both sides but this type of posting from the bashers just clutters things up...and they know this.
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2012 10:58:49 GMT -5
I have already spoken with Kid, he is not posting 100 times per day, his number of posts are way down.
Arctic just joined and posted what he thought was relevant to the topics.
C, come on, you are frustrated and are directing this frustration at the people who have a different opinion than you.
What info are you missing out on, and cant seem to find?
There is no info.
Things are very quiet, and everyone is frustrated.
SBG
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 11:05:13 GMT -5
SBG,
Frustration is normal in a situation like this. Just ask yourself this question. You gave the bashers a place to spew their views of the situation...any idea why they are not using it? I have also noticed that they smell your frustration and building fear and are jumping all over that. This is what they do. Sharks that smell blood in the water comes to mind. If you can not look at the general board and see what a clutter it has become I don't know what to tell you.
That said this is a great place to come and search for info. Much better than the Yahoo board which the bashers are still posting with nothing from anybody with financial interests. I just wish that there was a little more direction of the overzealous bashers as well as overzealous pumpers. I wrote a little bit about it on the bashers board that was made for them...and has about 10 posts from non-bashers.
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Post by joeatkodak on Sept 25, 2012 11:12:56 GMT -5
SBG, Frustration is normal in a situation like this. Just ask yourself this question. You gave the bashers a place to spew their views of the situation...any idea why they are not using it? I have also noticed that they smell your frustration and building fear and are jumping all over that. This is what they do. Sharks that smell blood in the water comes to mind. If you can not look at the general board and see what a clutter it has become I don't know what to tell you. That said this is a great place to come and search for info. Much better than the Yahoo board which the bashers are still posting with nothing from anybody with financial interests. I just wish that there was a little more direction of the overzealous bashers as well as overzealous pumpers. I wrote a little bit about it on the bashers board that was made for them...and has about 10 posts from non-bashers. I suspect that if SBG made a place for "Pumpers", it would be just as popular as the Basher board. The pumpers don't see themselves as pumpers, anymore than the bashers see themselves as bashers. Simple. It's all relative to one's point of view.
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 11:19:09 GMT -5
SBG, Frustration is normal in a situation like this. Just ask yourself this question. You gave the bashers a place to spew their views of the situation...any idea why they are not using it? I have also noticed that they smell your frustration and building fear and are jumping all over that. This is what they do. Sharks that smell blood in the water comes to mind. If you can not look at the general board and see what a clutter it has become I don't know what to tell you. That said this is a great place to come and search for info. Much better than the Yahoo board which the bashers are still posting with nothing from anybody with financial interests. I just wish that there was a little more direction of the overzealous bashers as well as overzealous pumpers. I wrote a little bit about it on the bashers board that was made for them...and has about 10 posts from non-bashers. I suspect that if SBG made a place for "Pumpers", it would be just as popular as the Basher board. The pumpers don't see themselves as pumpers, anymore than the bashers see themselves as bashers. Simple. It's all relative to one's point of view. You see Joe...the problem is that there are some of us that actually have financial interests here and would like a little cleaner view of things. That means removing the extreme bashers and pumpers to their own boards. There is a way for SBG to do this. He can weed out the extremists. Do we really need bashers here with 'no financial interests'? Makes you wonder.
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2012 11:20:01 GMT -5
I really dont know what to suggest.
Everyone wants to see sunshine and rainbows, but that is not reality.
SBG
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Post by arcticfox on Sept 25, 2012 11:24:57 GMT -5
Cswift, I've pointed this out to you before....
You spend more effort question what I do for a living, and calling people bashers than you do discussing Kodak's fundamentals.
As I said before this is a common defense mechanism when people don't want to deal with difficult issues or problems. By redirecting attention into some irrelevant issue instead of focusing on the problem at hand, it gives them a sense of control.... however in reality they are only running away from the problem.
So you can choose to study EK and understand where you went wrong from this whole fiasco and figure out an optimal way to recover from your current position. Or you can keep directing your attention on things that don't matter and blaming others for your predicament. Choice is yours.
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 11:28:08 GMT -5
I really dont know what to suggest. Everyone wants to see sunshine and rainbows, but that is not reality. SBG Nah. This is reality. Not always sunshine and rainbows. Notice I said that both extreme bashers and pumpers need to be forced to their own spots here. There are a lot of posters here on each side that have a lot of good and well thought out things to say. As well as good info to share through links and such. You said you have spoken to Kid and he has at least toned it down to about 50 times a day he repeats the same thing. Foxy is doing the same thing he did on the Yahoo board...typing pages and pages of posts between operations with no financial interests in the penny stock known as Kodak. I just wonder to myself why he wants Kodak to fail SO badly. hmmm. Maybe make a section called LEVEL HEADED THINKERS or MATURE POSTERS ONLY in which anybody that can not control their emotions is not allowed. No name calling. No venting. No extreme bashing or pumping. Just the exchange of relevant information. Everybody starts out with access to this area but the ban hammer comes down quickly if you can not handle yourself in a mature manner there. I think that would be a great place for all on this board.
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Post by joefarina on Sept 25, 2012 11:28:30 GMT -5
hey arctic.....go do brain surgery on your on brain.....then joe at kodak will pull the plug as kid gives you mouth to mouth then you croak cuz kids lips gets glued to yours and you die again from bad kid stench!!!!!
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 11:28:55 GMT -5
Cswift, I've pointed this out to you before.... You spend more effort question what I do for a living, and calling people bashers than you do discussing Kodak's fundamentals. As I said before this is a common defense mechanism when people don't want to deal with difficult issues or problems. By redirecting attention into some irrelevant issue instead of focusing on the problem at hand, it gives them a sense of control.... however in reality they are only running away from the problem. So you can choose to study EK and understand where you went wrong from this whole fiasco and figure out an optimal way to recover from your current position. Or you can keep directing your attention on things that don't matter and blaming others for your predicament. Choice is yours. I question why you want Kodak to fail SO badly. That is all my man. That is all.
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Post by arcticfox on Sept 25, 2012 11:39:56 GMT -5
I question why you want Kodak to fail SO badly. That is all my man. That is all. What makes you think that I "want" Kodak to fail? At this point it is not about what you want or what I want. It is about what is happening and seeing things as it is. And that takes courage and intellectual integrity... it takes courage to not be steer astray by wishful thinking. If I can hit a button and make Kodak prosper again. I would hit it for you in a heart beat. If I can hit that button and make Perez go to jail. I would. If I can hit a button and have everyone on this board get their money back... I would. If I can hit a button and it would take us back to June 2011 when the stock was at $3.50 and I told you guys to stay away from EK.. I would. If I can hit a button and it would make Ken Pro do a full confession on all his deceitful ways.. I would. But this is reality. There is no such a button. Live with it.
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 25, 2012 11:44:26 GMT -5
oh, foxy is so caring...
he really is a PRO at trying to manipulate people.
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 11:48:13 GMT -5
I question why you want Kodak to fail SO badly. That is all my man. That is all. What makes you think that I "want" Kodak to fail? At this point it is not about what you want or what I want. It is about what is happening and seeing things as it is. And that takes courage and intellectual integrity... it takes courage to not be steer astray by wishful thinking. If I can hit a button and make Kodak prosper again. I would hit it for you in a heart beat. If I can hit that button and make Perez go to jail. I would. If I can hit a button and have everyone on this board get their money back... I would. If I can hit a button and it would take us back to June 2011 when the stock was at $3.50 and I told you guys to stay away from EK.. I would. If I can hit a button and it would make Ken Pro do a full confession on all his deceitful ways.. I would. But this is reality. There is no such a button. Live with it. You have spent just about a year of your life and PAGES of posts enjoying the failure of Kodak. Those of us who have been here long enough know this. The question I have is why?
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Post by arcticfox on Sept 25, 2012 12:01:18 GMT -5
Why I post has been explained at least a dozen times already on yahoo. Go look it up.
Why you keep asking the same question is a better question. But I already have the answer for that. Just look about 7 post up. You have a problem cswift and you are not willing to face it. You direct your attention on things that don't matter as a coping mechanism. Can't you see it?
And FYI, I just got a $75k sign on bonus for the new position I was offered via FedEx yesterday afternoon. It's amazing that I'm paying nearly 3x the tax rate as Romney. Between now and when a new state license is issued in December (I'm already licensed in two states)..... I will have a lot of time to post.
In fact, I'm flying out of the country for a 10 day trip tomorrow, and you know what I do when I get bored on the plane. I hook up the WiFi and post. So get ready Cswift. If you can't handle the truth or the numbers, you best craw back into your hole for a few days.
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 25, 2012 12:02:07 GMT -5
It's simple...
1) Deranged psychotic lunatic- don't listen to him 2) Financial interest in Kodak doing badly- don't listen to him
There are no other possibilities.
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 25, 2012 12:04:57 GMT -5
Arctic is nuts.......plain an simple
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 12:07:32 GMT -5
Why I post has been explained at least a dozen times already on yahoo. Go look it up. Why you keep asking the same question is a better question. But I already have the answer for that. Just look about 7 post up. You have a problem cswift and you are not willing to face it. You direct your attention on things that don't matter as a coping mechanism. Can't you see it? And FYI, I just got a $75k sign on bonus for the new position I was offered via FedEx yesterday afternoon. It's amazing that I'm paying nearly 3x the tax rate as Romney. Between now and when a new state license is issued in December (I'm already licensed in two states)..... I will have a lot of time to post. In fact, I'm flying out of the country for a 10 day trip tomorrow, and you know what I do when I get bored on the plane. I hook up the WiFi and post. So get ready Cswift. If you can't handle the truth or the numbers, you best craw back into your hole for a few days. I can admit I have financial interests in Kodak and want them to do well. You Foxy dear can not. You just seem to have a screw loose spending so much time and so many pages of posts over the last year enjoying the downfall of a company you have no financial interests in. Anybody with any amount of thought would wonder why. I know why. Most of us here do. You can keep feeding off the fear of others though. There are always fence sitters in a stock. Gotta admit though...you do your boiler room job very well. Oh...and thanks for the little session doc.
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Post by Admin on Sept 25, 2012 12:19:46 GMT -5
I understand his type.
I was involved with some guys like this on the Internet in Online marketing field.
Very highly intelligent guys, don't do it for the money, its for the ability to claim you were able to do something.
His interest is to digest this situation and call it correctly, its like reading a Murder Mystery and figuring out who done it.
Or doing crossword puzzles, how many people do those for hours each day?
Guys I knew many years ago, were all about the code, or breaking the code, the money came as a by product.
SBG
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 12:24:34 GMT -5
I understand his type. I was involved with some guys like this on the Internet in Online marketing field. Very highly intelligent guys, don't do it for the money, its for the ability to claim you were able to do something. His interest is to digest this situation and call it correctly, its like reading a Murder Mystery and figuring out who done it. Or doing crossword puzzles, how many people do those for hours each day? Guys I knew many years ago, were all about the code, or breaking the code, the money came as a by product. SBG The thing is boss...Foxy seems to be ALL about the $$. Why do you think he keeps throwing at us how much he makes as a DOC? Now if he was THAT interested in $$ why would he not have shorted this down over a year ago? His motives in all this is what has me thinking (as well as most of the rest of us). Nobody spends so much time and effort on something that they have no skin in the game. That is unless they have a mental illness. Just my two sense : ) and we will see when this is all done who was right. I will be here to give Foxy AND Kid their props if they are right in the end. I have a feeling KID might if he is wrong. Foxy will be on to his next job by then...that or fired.
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Post by arcticfox on Sept 25, 2012 12:29:13 GMT -5
I understand his type. I was involved with some guys like this on the Internet in Online marketing field. Very highly intelligent guys, don't do it for the money, its for the ability to claim you were able to do something. His interest is to digest this situation and call it correctly, its like reading a Murder Mystery and figuring out who done it. Or doing crossword puzzles, how many people do those for hours each day? Guys I knew many years ago, were all about the code, or breaking the code, the money came as a by product. SBG SBG, you've pretty much nailed it. There is also something about me that helps explain what I do. I hate injustice. I think what Perez and Pro are doing constitutes a major injustice.
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 12:34:28 GMT -5
I think this nails you also Foxy. Bi-polar. One symptom which would be grandiosity.
Grandiosity What is grandiosity? Grandiosity occurs when a person has an inflated self-esteem, believe they have special powers, spiritual connections, or religious relationships.38
When grandiosity is severe, the person may be delusional about his or her capabilities.20
What does it feel like to be grandiose? A grandiose individual feels unrealistically powerful, important, and invincible. These beliefs are frequently accompanied by feelings of euphoria and intense pleasure. Nothing seems impossible and every problem has a solution.
The person may feel an urgent need to initiate projects or activities.
How can I recognize this symptom? To others, the person's behavior seems pompous, boastful, and exaggerated. Observers may perceive the grandiose individual to be conceited and condescending.
The person's speedy pursuit of dreams, goals, and projects may seem impulsive.
Set goals and initiated plans may be unrealistic.29
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Post by arcticfox on Sept 25, 2012 12:36:52 GMT -5
Set goals and initiated plans may be unrealistic.29 You mean kind of like setting a goal for EK of $15 a share? LOL
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Post by cswift71 on Sept 25, 2012 12:41:49 GMT -5
Set goals and initiated plans may be unrealistic.29 You mean kind of like setting a goal for EK of $15 a share? LOL Extreme pumper is just as bad as extreme basher. Never said it was not. Glad you did not deny my diagnosis DOC. Have a great day!
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