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Post by julgob on Aug 16, 2013 18:36:53 GMT -5
What are the chances that the judge dont approve the por?
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Post by Admin on Aug 16, 2013 18:49:42 GMT -5
I would say Slim and None, and Slim just left town!
lol
just kidding, just reminded me of that joke when you asked the question.
All kidding aside, on the day our EC ruling came down our attorney told us that there are allot of objections, so he thought that the POR could possibly not be passed.
My personal opinion- They are trying their asses off to get this through the 1st time, but I am hoping that they are not able to get it through.
I am also very disappointed in the judges decision, as the whole excuse that they will lose their financing if they don't come out now, is a crock.
They can easily just make a change in the deadline to come out, an addendum and that is it.
This is not for the faint of heart anymore, this has really gone to a slim chance of survival here as they are dead set on passing this POR, and on top of that, the language and the way the judge wrote his ruling, made me feel like this thing is pre-ordained and it is very upsetting.
It's a big club and you ain't in it!
Truer words have never been spoken!
SBG
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Post by julgob on Aug 16, 2013 18:58:57 GMT -5
You will hold until the end aren't you?
...anyways I'm that kind of guy who believes in miracles.
I still think "something" is possible.
I can't sell for all this loss ...
I rather wait until the end. As I said .. "who knows".
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Post by Marriott on Aug 17, 2013 10:25:44 GMT -5
sbg:
Good morning !
There is no question in my mind that the bankruptcy game is rigged . " Fairness " is not a consideration . The revolving players know in advance what they want and then present " facts " to the presiding Judge to support their views.
Now getting back to Mr Carlin ( RIP ) . His presentation was pure BS except for the part about the politicians. He said , among many things, that our "education system sucks " and that " it will never get any better " because " big wealthy interests " do not want people to exercise " critical thinking" . My response to Mr Carlin - Please allow me to introduce Mr Steve Jobs ( RIP ) a punk from Cupertino , CA who has some crazy ideas.
He was right when he stated that " politicians were put there to support the illusion that you have freedom of choice " . My solution - the internet age and globalization .
To paraphrase William Wallace - Every person dies - not every person really lives . I salute each of you who have tried your best to right the KODAK wrong . Each of you has " lived " in this effort .
Some things were never meant to be . So accept it, learn from it and move on .
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Post by fufat on Aug 17, 2013 15:47:16 GMT -5
sbg: Good morning ! There is no question in my mind that the bankruptcy game is rigged . " Fairness " is not a consideration . The revolving players know in advance what they want and then present " facts " to the presiding Judge to support their views. Now getting back to Mr Carlin ( RIP ) . His presentation was pure BS except for the part about the politicians. He said , among many things, that our "education system sucks " and that " it will never get any better " because " big wealthy interests " do not want people to exercise " critical thinking" . My response to Mr Carlin - Please allow me to introduce Mr Steve Jobs ( RIP ) a punk from Cupertino , CA who has some crazy ideas. He was right when he stated that " politicians were put there to support the illusion that you have freedom of choice " . My solution - the internet age and globalization . To paraphrase William Wallace - Every person dies - not every person really lives . I salute each of you who have tried your best to right the KODAK wrong . Each of you has " lived " in this effort . Some things were never meant to be . So accept it, learn from it and move on . I have to disagree with you! Carlin is 100% correct, I have family members who are teachers and what goes on would blow your mind and it's because the internal politics in the school system ruin the chance for our kids to get the education that is needed to achieve in the workplace. Teachers have their hands tied and really have no say in the matter. The school district comes first before the student and that's the truth!!! It's really sad! If only people knew what really goes on!! As for Steve Jobs...... that guy along with a noted few are alien/ human hybrids. Do you truly believe out of about 7 TRILLION people on this earth the few have the capability of creating devices like the iPhone. It has nothing to do about proper schooling. If that was the case then there should be countless Steve Jobs walking around. Don't give the human race too much credit. We as a race, can't get past the notion of doing the right, thing and be thoughtful and not cheat, lie or kill. What we are good at is consuming and destroying everything. Been doing that for a bit, I believe and don't seeing it end anytime soon. For us this is just another investment that didn't turn out the way we wanted it to go. It doesn't mean it's the end of the road, as long as you are healthy and breathing you'll be ok. Sorry for the long rant!!! Everyone enjoy your weekend!!!!
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Post by updated on Aug 17, 2013 15:53:39 GMT -5
Were the shorts covering when the PPS tanked and then started climbing? Why would the shorts cover if this is going to Zero? if the shorts weren't covering, then who was buying?
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Post by Admin on Aug 17, 2013 16:20:06 GMT -5
Wish I knew, almost 9 cents.
Strange indeed.
SBG
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Post by updated on Aug 17, 2013 16:34:08 GMT -5
It seems the judge would like an early vacation, THE POR will be approved... Funny / ridiculous but what can we do? Wish I knew, almost 9 cents. Strange indeed. SBG
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Post by updated on Aug 18, 2013 11:19:50 GMT -5
I hope all the effort that were made don't go unheard... I hope someone out there buys kodak and quickly... Were the shorts covering when the PPS tanked and then started climbing? Why would the shorts cover if this is going to Zero? if the shorts weren't covering, then who was buying?
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Post by updated on Aug 18, 2013 11:35:11 GMT -5
I can't believe it... it is clear fraud... management has mislead and lied to investors... I don't know how they will get away with this... www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/15/us-eastmankodak-idUSTRE7AE1Y720111115I hope all the effort that were made don't go unheard... I hope someone out there buys kodak and quickly... Were the shorts covering when the PPS tanked and then started climbing? Why would the shorts cover if this is going to Zero? if the shorts weren't covering, then who was buying?
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Post by dontbeafraid on Aug 18, 2013 12:09:12 GMT -5
They eat together, they drink together, they golf together. Its a fraternity of fraud.
Hope this blows up in their faces.
Its spelled out in plain English so not sure what language these guys are speaking but its not ours.
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Post by dontbeafraid on Aug 18, 2013 12:33:58 GMT -5
I'm still holding every single share. However you combine them it adds up to a chunk of change.
PS - Invest at your own risk. You can't rely on this message board or any speculation.
I just don't see how this bankruptcy can end so smoothly for these guys. IMO.
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Post by keith on Aug 18, 2013 12:45:55 GMT -5
"Management has mislead and lied to investors".
Yup. And to employees, retirees and vendors. Been sort of a pattern for a very long time.
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Post by updated on Aug 18, 2013 12:46:09 GMT -5
I am holding too, let's see what Tues brings... Sports junkie still posting positively on yahoo board, this guy has a faith of a saint lol I'm still holding every single share. However you combine them it adds up to a chunk of change. PS - Invest at your own risk. You can't rely on this message board or any speculation. I just don't see how this bankruptcy can end so smoothly for these guys. IMO.
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