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Post by proforkodak on Sept 12, 2012 17:59:23 GMT -5
1)Photofinishing:
with Kodak name should be between 6 and 10 times EBITDA: Regardless of how the image is captured, if people want wedding pictures or professionally produced pictures, then must use paper and ink/chemicals. Appx. $700 million in revenues with $70 million in EBITDA.
2) KIOSK appx. $400 million in revenues with EBITDA of $40 million. With the Kodak name attached this business also sell for between 6 and 10 times EBITDA.
3) Scanner and software: With appx. $430 million in revenues and $70 million of EBITDA This business should sell for 8 to 12 times EBITDA Higher margin businesses with software generally sell for a higher multiple than old economy businesses.
WE Might as well discuss things that can be analyzed, rather than pulling our puds while waiting for the generally unknowable, to be disclosed.
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Post by Admin on Sept 12, 2012 18:04:47 GMT -5
So minimum, 1.2 Billion.
SBG
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Post by tvstockpix on Sept 12, 2012 18:49:29 GMT -5
Pro....there are approximately 3 billion of NOL carry forwards associated with the company. Any idea of how much would be transfered with the sale of the three business units? My understanding was that if this stock were cancelled ( which I don't believe), the NOL would also be cancelled by the IRS. I find it to be a poor business decision to cancel a 50 million market cap and loose 3 billion in NOLs. TV
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Post by proforkodak on Sept 12, 2012 19:26:19 GMT -5
>>>"Any idea of how much would be transfered with the sale of the three business units?
NONE! These businesses have been steadily profitable. But even if they were not, the taxes are paid by the parent company. So any NOLs stay with the parent.
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Post by mglassma on Sept 12, 2012 19:31:58 GMT -5
Pro,
Please go out and do something fun on your birthday. You can take a break from all this Kodak stuff for a day. Keep your mind on something else and that way when your not thinking about Kodak something huge will happen. It will make it all that much better. Seriously go grab a drink and enjoy life on your b-day.
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Post by proforkodak on Sept 12, 2012 19:52:00 GMT -5
Matt, I think that is the most intelligent thing you have ever posted Seriously, that was a very thoughtful thing to say.... I have been trying to be supportive to the group.... but I do admit that on ONE year later, I am starting to lose patience... Thanks for the role reversal therapy!
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 12, 2012 20:41:42 GMT -5
Beautiful Matt, and Happy Birthday Pro! You are a good guy and I'm glad that you brought out the best in Matt!
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Post by Admin on Sept 12, 2012 20:46:01 GMT -5
Stop it I'm getting misty.
SBG
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 12, 2012 20:47:17 GMT -5
Just wait how misty you'll be when Kodak goes TO THE MOON SBG, TO THE MOON!
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Post by mglassma on Sept 12, 2012 21:19:18 GMT -5
We are all a band of brothers. We may not always get a long or like each other but we all have the same goal. Some of us here, especially me, bitch and complain and lose patience on a regular basis, I apologize if my anger offends anybody. I truly want every long on this board to be vindicated for all of their pain, suffering and perserverence. At this point, I care not how it happens I just want to see everyone smiling and maybe even some day high fivin when this shit comes to fruition.
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 12, 2012 21:25:16 GMT -5
""I truly want every long on this board to be vindicated for all of their pain, suffering and perseverance.""
Amen to that Matt!
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Post by Admin on Sept 12, 2012 21:48:27 GMT -5
Lets gather round the camp fire and join hands and sing Kum Bi Ya.
After that we will make hot chocolate and smores.
LOL
SBG
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 12, 2012 21:56:11 GMT -5
If there's booze then I'll be happy to start the singing.
;D
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Post by hvapg on Sept 12, 2012 22:00:42 GMT -5
SBG that was exactly what I wanted to post until I got down to the bottom of this thread. You guys I believe are truly exhausted with the whole process that has unfolded. Lets just kick back and see what happens. No need for any more speculation. News will come in its own time.
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 12, 2012 22:02:42 GMT -5
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