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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 19:15:40 GMT -5
for pennies and lost huge NOL. WHY?
Maybe there is an agreement beetwing buyer and creditors?
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 19:52:50 GMT -5
I dont think that creditors are so stupid and dont understand the benefit of keeping NOLs. It would cost them just about $20-30ML to buy stocks and get over $2BL in NOLs.
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 19:54:28 GMT -5
Any logical explanation? People?
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Post by updated on Sept 20, 2013 19:59:29 GMT -5
Long time ago, I told you, THE IRS wanted the money ... both parties WON--- shareholders LOSE RUB, stop beating yourself up... life is short, don't spend it worrying about money ... for pennies and lost huge NOL. WHY? Maybe there is an agreement beetwing buyer and creditors?
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 20:03:32 GMT -5
Updated, if you feel that it is over - please just leave. Why do you still come here? I address my questions to those who wants to understand what is going on and trust to common sense more than to illusion.
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 20:07:44 GMT -5
IRS can not be part of the deal. They always wants money. There is a law and if you dont have to pay then you will not. Thousands of lawyers get paid for saving people and companies from extra and non required payments.
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Post by updated on Sept 20, 2013 21:18:02 GMT -5
Rub, I am sorry man... did not mean to be insensitive, but we were all in this and we burnt... I pray that you are right Good luck my friend:) Updated, if you feel that it is over - please just leave. Why do you still come here? I address my questions to those who wants to understand what is going on and trust to common sense more than to illusion.
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 21:27:15 GMT -5
updated, thank you! I understand we all are depressed, but I try to keep everyone united and try be friendly with common sense. "Big guys" created illusion and want us to feel hopeless and separated. WE DID NOT FORGET ABOUT INSIDER TRADING YET AND WE WILL TRY TO UNCOVER EACH SEALED DOCUMENT IN COURT!!!
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Post by updated on Sept 20, 2013 21:34:34 GMT -5
Ok, I hope so ... also we are passed 19th sep and if you are right, we should hear something this weekend.. what happened to the new ticker? when is it supposed to start trading or NEVER? updated, thank you! I understand we all are depressed, but I try to keep everyone united and try be friendly with common sense. "Big guys" created illusion and want us to feel hopeless and separated. WE DID NOT FORGET ABOUT INSIDER TRADING YET AND WE WILL TRY TO UNCOVER EACH SEALED DOCUMENT IN COURT!!!
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 20, 2013 21:37:55 GMT -5
I hope the new ticker will never start trading and this is part of illusion.
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Post by angelsrwatchn on Sept 20, 2013 22:09:11 GMT -5
Didn't the date get moved in one of the court docs to Sept 30??? Thought I saw it ......
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Post by goldentouch on Sept 21, 2013 14:08:38 GMT -5
for pennies and lost huge NOL. WHY? Maybe there is an agreement beetwing buyer and creditors? Rub- what you still dont understand is that the 3 billion (approx) of NOL are only worth about 700 million at a 30% tax rate. Also creditors got about a 3 billion dollar haircut. So the buyers of the new shares are getting a company with 3 billion dollars less debt (not to mention that shareholders didnt need to get pad anything). Plus, there is no guarantee that certain NOL benefits can not be salvaged, but that is another case completely. I am sure the best lawyers available got paid millions to figure this out. Angels- the shares will start trading on the 30th... plan is already accepted, no reason to extend exclusivity.
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 21, 2013 14:56:28 GMT -5
Golden, nice try, but even if I agree with your funny $700ML, then there is still NO logical answer, why creditors did not buy all old stocks for $20-30ML in order to save $700ML.
Any evidence/document about September 30th?
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Post by goldentouch on Sept 21, 2013 15:48:39 GMT -5
Golden, nice try, but even if I agree with your funny $700ML, then there is still NO logical answer, why creditors did not buy all old stocks for $20-30ML in order to save $700ML. Any evidence/document about September 30th? Rub- are you slow? If shares made it, the bonds would have to FIRST get paid. 3 billion in bonds and debt got paid 5 cents on the dollar. That means over 2.5 billion in debt got wiped out. You think shareholders deserve anything, I think bondholders are getting a shit deal. The shares need to go up 20X before some bond/debt holders break even, do you understand that? As far as Sep 30th, wait 9 more days and you will see it trading under the Ticker; EKOD
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 21, 2013 15:53:34 GMT -5
Mr. Golden, BIG EGO please suport September 30th with ANY document.
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Post by goldentouch on Sept 21, 2013 16:16:20 GMT -5
Yes, my stock certificate that is in the bank.
Do your own research... Call KCC (if you even know who that is
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 21, 2013 16:19:24 GMT -5
So, there is no official announcement and document, right Mr. Liar?
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Post by goldentouch on Sept 21, 2013 16:22:57 GMT -5
Yup, I'm a liar (wait 9 more days buddy).
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Post by rub1331 on Sept 21, 2013 16:24:24 GMT -5
OK, you dont know when, maybe you know where Nasdaq or Nyse, Mr. I KNOW EVERYTHING?
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Post by rub1331 on Oct 1, 2013 9:01:56 GMT -5
Golden is probably calling KCC to find out why EKOD is still not trading at Nasdaq or NYSE. LOL.
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Post by julgob on Oct 1, 2013 9:20:51 GMT -5
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Post by goldentouch on Oct 1, 2013 14:18:56 GMT -5
0 volume?
I sold 1,665 shares today, for 25.25... about 42,000 worth (needed to pay back a loan I got)
Kodak is a good investment, but was (still am) way overinvested.
What is the difference when it starts to trade on the NYSE/NASDAQ... you can already buy and sell the shares
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Post by julgob on Oct 1, 2013 14:24:10 GMT -5
this morning it was 0 but whatever congrats
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Post by rub1331 on Oct 1, 2013 15:11:36 GMT -5
"What is the difference when it starts to trade on the NYSE/NASDAQ... you can already buy and sell the shares" There is a ONE and HUGE difference,it calls CREDIBILITY. Now I am telling again, there is a big reason for KKR to buy old shares - NOLs. IT is defenetly NOT a $700ML. It is more than $3.4BL. www.kodak-shareholders.com/__Blog/kodak-nol-net-operating-losses-analysis-as-performed-by-kodak-shareholders/1. Kodak had $4,396M net operating losses (NOL’s) and $730M tax credits on Dec 31, 2012. This and other deferred tax assets provided Kodak with a total net deferred tax assets of $3,377M. Kodak assumed a $2,838M valuation allowance to reduce this number to $539M. The reason for this valuation allowance was Kodak’s unprofitability in 2012 and the previous years and the projected continuation of the unprofitability.
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Post by goldentouch on Oct 1, 2013 16:14:34 GMT -5
Rub- I need to know, where you really stupid enough to own 2 million shares when the stock was canceled?
I mean I saw you post it but....
Oh well, if you want I can sell you a piece of the moon for a really good price. (whose credibility is in question here yours?)
Anyway this board is dead, I don't think I need to post here anymore.... My bosses are very happy with my results on making everyone sell. Using the aliases on the yahoo board we bought up 130 million shares after everyone thought that the shares were "canceled" on sep 3rd.
TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOONN!!!! Buyout for $3 a share!! We are gonna make millions, dolla dolla bills ya
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Post by rub1331 on Oct 1, 2013 16:31:43 GMT -5
Oh, you are leaving us, Mr. I KNOW EVERYTHING. Ok, good bye then, and say hi to KCC.
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Post by We Got Hosed!!! on Oct 1, 2013 17:49:09 GMT -5
Yup, I'm a liar (wait 9 more days buddy). yes, that' right Goldie... You are a liar. Finally, you are wrong. EKOD still in OTC even today let alone 9/30/2013 thanks for keeping us company!
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Post by goldentouch on Oct 1, 2013 20:02:11 GMT -5
Yup, I'm a liar (wait 9 more days buddy). yes, that' right Goldie... You are a liar. Finally, you are wrong. EKOD still in OTC even today let alone 9/30/2013 thanks for keeping us company! Well when I said that kodak stock was not trading, but it started trading on sep 23rd But as we know, Kodak never does anything on time. Anyway look for it to trade on a major index before the end of the week... You thinking about buying, it might be a bit out of your price range. I hear STTX is a good penny stock with a chance of going to zero very soon
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Post by rub1331 on Oct 1, 2013 21:50:50 GMT -5
WGH, let's wait by the end of this week. I dont think we will see EKOD anywhere but in OTC.
By the way, golden said many times that he was leaving this board, but he is still here.
Golden, remember KKR is going to buy Kodak (old shares)!
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Post by justice4kodak on Oct 2, 2013 10:07:12 GMT -5
This all about collusion between the bastard of liars and robbers who are legalized by Alan Rubber. Please do not invest, contract, and support with the baster of liars "EKOD" The shortest line between two points, poor to rich, is lies and robberies. ;( Kodad BOD has planned this strategy for years with collusion of the dirty judge, dishonor Rubber. ;( Shares are cancelled withou EC allowed to form for investigation = lies and robberies = dirty justice to AmericaNow, EKOD BOD has a plenty amount of time to hide its stolen asset with the help of the dirty judge, Alan Rubber. ;( Real justice for the innocent investors of trust and heavy amount of penalty for the dirty crooks please. Real justice to American please, and please. Good god and clean god bless America pleaseno dirty justice, Clean and fair Justice, justice, and justice please
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