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Post by cswift71 on Aug 20, 2013 15:09:57 GMT -5
Gobbling them up at .055
Crazy stuff.
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 16:08:54 GMT -5
who's buying?
it must be more some corn fed idiots with more money than brains who disagrees with Fox and Golden . . . .
otherwise it must be some person of interest who values the company different
What say you Golden?
Was it corn fed "mom and pop" retards buying stock scheduled for zero?
was it a bunch of dummies who just happen to have money to waste/gamble on a stock set to go to zero?
was it uh buncha redneck retards kept it over a nickle when everyone else was selling?
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Post by updated on Aug 20, 2013 16:12:04 GMT -5
Kevin, on Sep 3rd, the stock will be canceled, so you are expecting someone to buy kodak in the coming few days... but what about poison pill...something is not right here... give me a scenario how do you think this might happen who's buying? it must be more some corn fed idiots with more money than brains who disagrees with Fox and Golden . . . . otherwise it must be some person of interest who values the company different What say you Golden? Was it corn fed "mom and pop" retards buying stock scheduled for zero? was it a bunch of dummies who just happen to have money to waste/gamble on a stock set to go to zero? was it uh buncha redneck retards kept it over a nickle when everyone else was selling?
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Post by arcticfox on Aug 20, 2013 16:15:57 GMT -5
who's buying? it must be more some corn fed idiots with more money than brains who disagrees with Fox and Golden . . . . otherwise it must be some person of interest who values the company different What say you Golden? Was it corn fed "mom and pop" retards buying stock scheduled for zero? was it a bunch of dummies who just happen to have money to waste/gamble on a stock set to go to zero? was it uh buncha redneck retards kept it over a nickle when everyone else was selling? Talk about corn fed redneck tards, it's probably all your cousins or wives (same difference). You might want to call around and see if any of them are spending your money buying some "sure thing" behind your back.
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Post by rideon on Aug 20, 2013 16:52:21 GMT -5
I'm not trying to spread sunshine and rainbows here, this situation sucks no doubt about it.
But if there was ever any possibility of a buyout, merger, etc. it was not going to happen until the environmental issues were settled. No entity would touch Kodak with a million foot pole with the potential of crippling environmental liability hanging in the air.
That issue was only signed off on yesterday. I don't think it's a coincidence that it was pushed back and pushed back. And that it happened to be approved the day before POR approval stinks to high heaven. Reminds me of them announcing the unipixel deal and then dropping the hammer.
Somebody is still buying, I'll take my chances instead of cashing in a measly .05. Why let Kodak come out of this lean and mean? They undervalued the company, make them pay for it and swoop them up.
Just my $.02 worth (or $.056) but what do I know, I've been wrong all along.
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 16:53:04 GMT -5
You should know my stance by now.
Now that all the ducks are in a row a buyout can happen.
KKR can and will make an offer to take EK private.
Kodak will accept.
Vote will pass.
The window for counter offers will be open.
KKR can benefit from the NOL's better than anyone if purchased NOW vrs after exit ownership change.
That's why they will offer pre exit vrs post and why KKR will own this rather than someone else.
I've said that a few times.
Why would KKR offer BEFORE all issues are settled in BK court?
You make sure your liabilities are limited first, such as the liabilities surrounding EBP.
It wasn't time yet.
Now that everyone is locked into some form of agreement with this POR a buyer can present himself to improve upon it because everyone locked themselves in to a lower offer.
Now it's time to bid.
The lowest offer was accepted.
If you think there will not be another offer then you think Kodak is valued properly and it was the highest offer and a fair price.
I am betting KKR is willing to pay more than 500 mill to get 85% of this company.
and I think Kravis wants the di and pi too
he just needed a dollar amount put on it before making his offer and taking them private
a offer to buy the whole company will halt the sale of di and pi
it's not over yet
in fact the bidding has just begun
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Post by julgob on Aug 20, 2013 17:05:45 GMT -5
I like your optimism kevin wow I'm impressed. .. but it's getting really really and more and more impossible in my mind... I've a hard time believing what you say but in any event I'll hold until the end.
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Post by jr on Aug 20, 2013 17:15:06 GMT -5
You should know my stance by now. Now that all the ducks are in a row a buyout can happen. KKR can and will make an offer to take EK private. Kodak will accept. Vote will pass. The window for counter offers will be open. KKR can benefit from the NOL's better than anyone if purchased NOW vrs after exit ownership change. That's why they will offer pre exit vrs post and why KKR will own this rather than someone else. I've said that a few times. Why would KKR offer BEFORE all issues are settled in BK court? You make sure your liabilities are limited first, such as the liabilities surrounding EBP. It wasn't time yet. Now that everyone is locked into some form of agreement with this POR a buyer can present himself to improve upon it because everyone locked themselves in to a lower offer. Now it's time to bid. The lowest offer was accepted. If you think there will not be another offer then you think Kodak is valued properly and it was the highest offer and a fair price. I am betting KKR is willing to pay more than 500 mill to get 85% of this company. and I think Kravis wants the di and pi too he just needed a dollar amount put on it before making his offer and taking them private a offer to buy the whole company will halt the sale of di and pi it's not over yet in fact the bidding has just begun Good Luck with That. You remind me of Kenny "The Pro" Loser telling everyone back in late September of 2011 that Kodak was not going to file for Bankruptcy, even though they had just tapped into a $160 million dollar credit line.... which cratered the stock from $1.69 to 0.78
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Post by littlefred747 on Aug 20, 2013 17:16:37 GMT -5
who's buying? it must be more some corn fed idiots with more money than brains who disagrees with Fox and Golden . . . . otherwise it must be some person of interest who values the company different What say you Golden? Was it corn fed "mom and pop" retards buying stock scheduled for zero? was it a bunch of dummies who just happen to have money to waste/gamble on a stock set to go to zero? was it uh buncha redneck retards kept it over a nickle when everyone else was selling? Talk about corn fed redneck tards, it's probably all your cousins or wives (same difference). You might want to call around and see if any of them are spending your money buying some "sure thing" behind your back. Fox....yumadbrah...? Of all days...you should be thrilled. You should at least try scientology...that works for most "smart guys" I'm concerned about you moving forward. Something is more than a "little off" with you. Does your employer know about this repressed anger? Is disappointment your constant bed-fellow? Hang in there hoss... Help is on the way!
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Post by trappatonii on Aug 20, 2013 17:16:55 GMT -5
Good Night Kevin ... Bla bla
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 17:20:35 GMT -5
why is it becoming more and more impossible?
when should the outside interest appear, before the issues were settled?
Now I'm just a corn fed in-breeder but I'd wait till the very last minute to bid.
How about this: Can you explain why it would be of ANY benefit to Kravis or any one else to make an offer any EARLIER than this?
So why is it getting harder and harder to believe now?
Shortly we will know if the idiot from the corn field was right and if there is a interested party.
Even if you could have, it would not have been prudent to make an offer before today.
If you are spoon fed by the media you might believe otherwise and that nothing is coming.
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Post by jr on Aug 20, 2013 17:22:20 GMT -5
How many shares of Kodak common stock are you long?
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Post by julgob on Aug 20, 2013 17:23:02 GMT -5
What you say makes sense but I wonder how it's legally possible to do so once the POR is officially approved.
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Post by arcticfox on Aug 20, 2013 17:23:16 GMT -5
You should know my stance by now. Now that all the ducks are in a row a buyout can happen. KKR can and will make an offer to take EK private. Kodak will accept. Vote will pass. The window for counter offers will be open. KKR can benefit from the NOL's better than anyone if purchased NOW vrs after exit ownership change. That's why they will offer pre exit vrs post and why KKR will own this rather than someone else. I've said that a few times. Why would KKR offer BEFORE all issues are settled in BK court? You make sure your liabilities are limited first, such as the liabilities surrounding EBP. It wasn't time yet. Now that everyone is locked into some form of agreement with this POR a buyer can present himself to improve upon it because everyone locked themselves in to a lower offer. Now it's time to bid. The lowest offer was accepted. If you think there will not be another offer then you think Kodak is valued properly and it was the highest offer and a fair price. I am betting KKR is willing to pay more than 500 mill to get 85% of this company. and I think Kravis wants the di and pi too he just needed a dollar amount put on it before making his offer and taking them private a offer to buy the whole company will halt the sale of di and pi it's not over yet in fact the bidding has just begun There is no buyout. Not from KKR,not from KGB, not from, KKK, and not from KYJelly. You are full of shit just like that loser Kenny. Even if some company were to want to the new Kodak private it would it after POR is in effect so that the liabilities are wiped. That means your shares are gone and they will be making offer for the new shares and not your worthless paper. You are a f'king retard.
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Post by jr on Aug 20, 2013 17:25:40 GMT -5
You should know my stance by now. Now that all the ducks are in a row a buyout can happen. KKR can and will make an offer to take EK private. Kodak will accept. Vote will pass. The window for counter offers will be open. KKR can benefit from the NOL's better than anyone if purchased NOW vrs after exit ownership change. That's why they will offer pre exit vrs post and why KKR will own this rather than someone else. I've said that a few times. Why would KKR offer BEFORE all issues are settled in BK court? You make sure your liabilities are limited first, such as the liabilities surrounding EBP. It wasn't time yet. Now that everyone is locked into some form of agreement with this POR a buyer can present himself to improve upon it because everyone locked themselves in to a lower offer. Now it's time to bid. The lowest offer was accepted. If you think there will not be another offer then you think Kodak is valued properly and it was the highest offer and a fair price. I am betting KKR is willing to pay more than 500 mill to get 85% of this company. and I think Kravis wants the di and pi too he just needed a dollar amount put on it before making his offer and taking them private a offer to buy the whole company will halt the sale of di and pi it's not over yet in fact the bidding has just begun There is no buyout. Not from KKR,not from KGB, not from, KKK, and not from KYJelly. You are full of shit just like that loser Kenny. Even if some company were to want to take the new Kodak private it would do it after POR is in effect so that the liabilities are wiped. That means your shares are gone and they will be making offer for the new shares and not your worthless paper. You are a f'king retard. That was pretty freaking funny!
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Post by julgob on Aug 20, 2013 17:26:04 GMT -5
Wow artic why don't you leave. We know your point. THANK YOU.
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 17:37:41 GMT -5
fox-
I know you can follow a bouncing ball.
The liabilities are virtually wipe/locked now that they accepted a price and this POR.
Now a buyer can offer more.
Can they say no?
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Post by Admin on Aug 20, 2013 17:40:50 GMT -5
I am pretty sure the Exclusivity Period which expires Sept 19th will block any move like this.
SBG
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Post by Admin on Aug 20, 2013 17:43:36 GMT -5
Think about it.
All these creditors agreed to get these massive haircuts and only take 5% (even though we all know the company is worth more).
Then to have someone come in, would not be fair, so therefore the exclusivity guarantees that they are not dicked once they agree to the concessions.
SBG
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Post by jr on Aug 20, 2013 17:44:45 GMT -5
Think about it. All these creditors agreed to get these massive haircuts and only take 5% (even though we all know the company is worth more). Then to have someone come in, would not be fair, so therefore the exclusivity guarantees that they are not dicked once they agree to the concessions. SBG Bingo!
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Post by arcticfox on Aug 20, 2013 17:47:38 GMT -5
Think about it. All these creditors agreed to get these massive haircuts and only take 5% (even though we all know the company is worth more). Then to have someone come in, would not be fair, so therefore the exclusivity guarantees that they are not dicked once they agree to the concessions. SBG Very good SBG. You are getting it.
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 17:54:31 GMT -5
until someone proves otherwise I state exclusivity ended when this POR was approved
Fox, Goldendouche, or any naysayer has the chance to prove my thinking on this wrong
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Post by keith on Aug 20, 2013 17:56:50 GMT -5
who's buying? it must be more some corn fed idiots with more money than brains who disagrees with Fox and Golden . . . . otherwise it must be some person of interest who values the company different What say you Golden? Was it corn fed "mom and pop" retards buying stock scheduled for zero? was it a bunch of dummies who just happen to have money to waste/gamble on a stock set to go to zero? was it uh buncha redneck retards kept it over a nickle when everyone else was selling? Yup. That's exactly who is buying. Along with those who can't admit they made a huge mistake. Nice to see it's finally sinking in for you. Just a tad bit late.
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 17:57:52 GMT -5
Think about it. All these creditors agreed to get these massive haircuts and only take 5% (even though we all know the company is worth more). Then to have someone come in, would not be fair, so therefore the exclusivity guarantees that they are not dicked once they agree to the concessions. SBG you got it backwards by removing the exclusivity you allow for the possiblity of a higher return they are not locked in to 5% if a higher offer is made they ARE locked in if exclusivity REMAINS understand?
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Post by updated on Aug 20, 2013 18:02:24 GMT -5
I agree with Kevin, what kevin says make sense... Anyways, I am not selling anything... now I have about 55K left lol Think about it. All these creditors agreed to get these massive haircuts and only take 5% (even though we all know the company is worth more). Then to have someone come in, would not be fair, so therefore the exclusivity guarantees that they are not dicked once they agree to the concessions. SBG you got it backwards by removing the exclusivity you allow for the possiblity of a higher return they are not locked in to 5% if a higher offer is made they ARE locked in if exclusivity REMAINS understand?
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Post by Admin on Aug 20, 2013 18:24:29 GMT -5
I can see how each way works, but don't know which is correct, and how it stands right now.
SBG
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Post by kevinblandford on Aug 20, 2013 18:32:57 GMT -5
don't you think Fox or Douche or any naysayer would prove me wrong if they could?
They'd love nothing more than to discredit me.
they only threw up name calling garbage and made blanket statements to take away from my thunder
when all they had to do was prove me wrong
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Post by arcticfox on Aug 20, 2013 18:43:22 GMT -5
don't you think Fox or Douche or any naysayer would prove me wrong if they could? They'd love nothing more than to discredit me. they only threw up name calling garbage and made blanket statements to take away from my thunder when all they had to do was prove me wrong You are smoking some good shit Kevin. It makes no financial sense for anyone to buy Kodak right now. SBG said you need someone more greedy than you guys.... No you need someone more retarded than you. Although I'm sad to report that such a person likely exist he/she or it wouldn't have the money to pull it off. Fools and their money are easily parted as you know quite well. If you don't know the mechanics of how things work why don't you just keep your mouth shut. You are so clueless and yet you keep fabricating irrational nonsense that requires other to prove you wrong. The fact is your ability to generate dumb theories is so great that it is beyond the ability of any single individual to tackle them all. The only time I've seen someone that is in the same league as you was Loser Ken Luuskin. The reality is proof enough dude. Bankruptcy, POR confirmed, shares going to be cancelled. You can take your KKR bullshit and shove it up your butt. The poor shareholders have been through enough even without your misinformation and lies.
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Post by Admin on Aug 20, 2013 18:44:28 GMT -5
I would like to know the truth too, and see how this works.
If the POR being voted yes opens up the ability for someone to come in that would be great.
Who can we ask to know this for sure?
SBG
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Post by arcticfox on Aug 20, 2013 18:56:50 GMT -5
I would like to know the truth too, and see how this works. If the POR being voted yes opens up the ability for someone to come in that would be great. Who can we ask to know this for sure? SBG The whole point of formulating POR is to get it approved by the the creditors and confirmed by the judge. That's all done the POR is confirmed and will be enforced. It has the authority to be carried out. It spells out how things will be executed to emerge from bankruptcy. There is no other POR. It's kind of like getting engaged to some chick. (exclusivity) then getting the approval from the future father in law to marry her (creditor approval). Then getting married (judge confirmation)... and now we are just waiting for the wedding night and the cherry to be popped. Your hypothetical alternative POR is like a engagement proposal at this stage. Too little too late.
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