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Post by joefarina on Sept 6, 2012 8:21:28 GMT -5
Do kodak patents really have the value that has been assigned to the? ......if you answer no then please detail you explanation. if you answer yes give the reasoning!! if they have the value then lazard will get the value!!!! if not then kodak is gonna have to hustle now...
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Post by Marriott on Sept 6, 2012 8:51:27 GMT -5
Joe:
Here is what has been reported:
Envision IP, INC ...............Between $818 m to $ 1.43 b
284 Partners LLC..............Between $ 2.21 b to $ 2.57 b ( hired by Kodak )
MDB Capital Group ........... $ 3 b ( bond holder )
I have to believe these people did not just fabricate these numbers .
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 6, 2012 8:55:07 GMT -5
the #'s aren't fabricated. The problem is the competitive auction has been killed by the players teaming up..... Common needs 2 billion to have a shot and we all know thats NOT happening.......
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Post by Marriott on Sept 6, 2012 9:00:07 GMT -5
Kid:
How do " we know thats NOT happening " .
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Post by joefarina on Sept 6, 2012 9:02:19 GMT -5
KID DOES NOT KNOW IF HE IS A LONG OR SHORT >>>>>>WE WILL GET NORTH OF 2 BILLION AND GRAVY WITH THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 6, 2012 9:03:55 GMT -5
experience and common sense.......
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Post by mglassma on Sept 6, 2012 9:04:23 GMT -5
Joe,
What if Kodak does not get that until next year? In other words, what if they get the big number BUT common is not around long enough too enjoy? Have you considered this? I mean, you MUST know at this point the clock IS NOT our friend!
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Post by joefarina on Sept 6, 2012 9:06:45 GMT -5
THE CLOCK IS OUR FRIEND....TIME TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP.... LAZARD NOW PLAYS HARD BALL....VERY POSITIVE AND ANYDAY NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!BOOM!!!
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 6, 2012 9:07:24 GMT -5
Joe, you obviously have zero experience at this game....... Good luck......
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Post by mglassma on Sept 6, 2012 9:13:19 GMT -5
The clock is our friend? Dude, lay off the tequila its only 10 am. The clock was OUR friend in a highly heated /contested auction where ALL parties are out for BLOOD and there is a definite deadline(meaning this is it we will not entertain ANYMORE bids after noon on this date PERIOD). THIS DID NOT HAPPEN JOEY!!! YOU MUST KNOW THIS BY NOW!!! STOP BEING IGNORANT!!! At this point we are putting all our trust in Kodak to reach an amicable deal to get the 2.2 or whatever there bottom line is in a creative or less than straight forward way. HOWEVER, The companies know that KODAK'S back is against the WALL. And you know this too. You lose 70 plus million a month, be forced to sell divisions and actively recruit buyers for your IP if you ARE DEALING IN A POSITION OF STRENGTH.
I feel Kodak will strike a deal to get us the spike we need BUT PLEASE STOP PUMPING BS ABOUT this being on Kodaks terms with Kodak calling the shots on Kodaks timetable. That is absolute crap at this point and you are lying to yourself.
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Post by joefarina on Sept 6, 2012 9:13:57 GMT -5
KID I CAN TAKE YOU TO ISRAEL AND BACK AND YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN GONE......
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Post by def1metk on Sept 6, 2012 11:32:17 GMT -5
There is no smart answer to this stupid question........ everything is guess, conjecture, feeling good and feeling bad numbers. We should just sit tight and wait.
The only real fact here is there is nothing we can do to influence the result. So no news is good news
Kodak is not against the wall........ Not yet!
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Post by razmataz2003 on Sept 6, 2012 12:10:46 GMT -5
Eh, i would like to think the patents will sell for a reasonable amount, the divisions will sell for a reasonable amount, the buyers will pay reasonably and we all become reasonably wealthy.
No need for "ogm so broke mortgaged the house on kodak itz 00000!" and no "AHAHAHA YACHTS EVERYWHERE RICH RICHRICHRICH Ill take 2!"
Reasonable is aok with me, the longer this process takes the more i'm able to reduce my avg pps so im "almost" good at the current value... need to buy more to be safe with a <1% change though... then i wouldnt worry at all... hah wait was that OT?
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Post by joefarina on Sept 6, 2012 12:18:23 GMT -5
MATT GO BUY SOME HAPPY PILLS AND SEND SOME DOWN TO KIDD....STOP WORRYING OR I WILL TURN PRO ON YOU.. DO YOU WANT TO BE CALLED MATT THE MINI MORON AGAIN???
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