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Post by bullishbear32 on Sept 10, 2012 21:17:16 GMT -5
He is not adding to conversation at all. He is really just cluttering everything up and being a nuisance.
We did not buy shares in Kodak with monopoly money. Many of us have put a lot of risk here and do not need his shit.
This is a serious matter and all those who get in the way should be tossed out. It would be different if he supported his arguments with facts, but he is just trying to raise doubt and get shareholders to worry.
I am tired or scrolling past his posts, and I would hope that the rest of the board is with me here.
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 10, 2012 21:21:14 GMT -5
Im the GLUE that holds this board together!
Im the only one who is going to be around in the end and you want to get rid of me??? LOL!!!!
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Post by bullishbear32 on Sept 10, 2012 21:25:44 GMT -5
vote!
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Post by proforkodak on Sept 10, 2012 21:27:04 GMT -5
Matt the MYOPIC micro MORON is in the EXACT same category.
OVER HALF the people who post on this MB have NO FACTS to offer.
OVER HALF the people who post on this MB have NO REAL ANALYSIS to offer.
Businesses with strong recurring revenue cash FLOW will SELL for some MULTIPLE of that cash flow.
I welcome ANYBODY to post an ANALYSIS of PAST sales containing:
1) the multiples of EBITDA for businesses that are LEADERS in their field , with the BEST BRAND name in their business
NOT sales from 10 years ago with a higher interest rate environment and lower EBITDA multiples but for NOW in this environment.
LOOK at my analysis of the 1) Photo finishing business
2) photo Kiosk business
3) scanner work flow business
WHY did CARLYLE just pay TEN times EBITDA for a commodity auto painting business that is 2nd in its field?
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Post by Admin on Sept 10, 2012 21:28:54 GMT -5
Kid I am getting allot of PMs asking me to ban you.
Guys, I have told you that we need to be able to run this like democracy and not a dictatorship.
Kid, allot of people, myself included have it all on the line, and to hear all day and all night that we are going to be wiped out, is not what we need to hear.
We all are aware of the risk, and don't need to be reminded of it 100 times a day.
Please chill out.
SBG
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 10, 2012 21:29:33 GMT -5
Good point pro.
It's a simple as looking at the cash flow the patents offer, plus other intangibles, to realize their true value is simply a function of their annual cash spin-off.
If I recall correctly the DIP and KISS spin off somewhere around 1B a year, so they will sell for a multiple of that number.
Please correct me if I'm wrong; unlike some other people here I enjoy learning and making common sense happen.
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 10, 2012 21:30:31 GMT -5
Kid needs to stop the glue crap, it wasn't even funny the first time regardless of your position in EK
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 10, 2012 21:30:46 GMT -5
Kid I am getting allot of PMs asking me to ban you. Guys, I have told you that we need to be able to run this like democracy and not a dictatorship. Kid, allot of people, myself included have it all on the line, and to hear all day and all night that we are going to be wiped out, is not what we need to hear. We all are aware of the risk, and don't need to be reminded of it 100 times a day. Please chill out. SBG ok SBG.....im in chill mode pal. no more words of wisdom. I will save them for the auction results
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Post by bullishbear32 on Sept 10, 2012 21:32:36 GMT -5
This is not the first time he has said that he will chill or leave. Keeping this guy around signals that this board is more of a circus than an intellectual gathering. When you're talking about thousands of dollars, which would you rather be?
Ban the kid.
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Post by tmarf on Sept 10, 2012 21:33:09 GMT -5
SBG, kid is the ultimate un paid basher. Nothing better to do than pine over the shares he sold for a huge loss and try and drag others into his misery. A real Debbie Downer. Ignore the loser low life son of a bitch.......
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Post by mikewestveer on Sept 10, 2012 21:34:36 GMT -5
I say the next inappropriate Post makes after 9:33 PM CST= instant banishment.
Zero tolerance for repetitive mind rot from Kid and Glassman.
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Post by TheBondKid on Sept 10, 2012 21:36:24 GMT -5
This is not the first time he has said that he will chill or leave. Keeping this guy around signals that this board is more of a circus than an intellectual gathering. When you're talking about thousands of dollars, which would you rather be? Ban the kid. thousands of dollars? You are in the wrong pool, this is not the kiddie pool. When you have hundreds of thousands then you can complain...
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 10, 2012 21:36:30 GMT -5
If it bothers everyone so much and IF you really want this to be run as a democracy...then be sure that the ultimate vote reflects the bulk of the members here.
Otherwise, ban him nonetheless and live with the outcome.
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Post by Admin on Sept 10, 2012 21:38:46 GMT -5
Guys, I get it.
But just because we don't agree with someones point of view, does not make it right to ban them.
I have communicated with him, and he said he will chill.
I dont mind the occasional posts of his points, but not too do it all day and night.
We have to be fair here.
I feel like we all have a right to be here, long, short, basher, etc...
But just not to be excessive with posts.
SBG
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 10, 2012 21:40:02 GMT -5
Well stated SBG!
WAIT A minute...you mean we don't get to cut him in half?
Drat!
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Post by tmarf on Sept 10, 2012 21:42:19 GMT -5
If you don't like what he says. simply DO NOT READ HIS POSTS.
Stop crying foul because he is foul.....
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Post by joefarina on Sept 10, 2012 21:45:19 GMT -5
YOU ARE A CHICKEN SBG.......HE IS A POS.....LOSE HIM..HE WILL NOT CHILL....HE IS CORAL GABLES MATERIAL AT BEST...............A FRICKIN PHONY!!!!!!!!!!!.
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Post by bullishbear32 on Sept 10, 2012 21:54:06 GMT -5
tmarf i don't think you understand that he is everywhere. all over every thread, posting his shit
newyork, good luck getting everyone to vote in any poll, assuming all members are active.
SBG, you said at the very beginning that this is our board, not yours. I think it's pretty clear what everyone wants...
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Post by tmarf on Sept 10, 2012 22:01:29 GMT -5
I do understand that but does the most serious of publications contain jokes?
Does ANYONE take this jackass for anything but comic relief?
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Post by bullishbear32 on Sept 10, 2012 22:02:49 GMT -5
a circus it is then
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 10, 2012 22:08:05 GMT -5
""Does ANYONE take this jackass for anything but comic relief?""
The Crux of kid's anger centers around venting his ire with Pro. Kid's ego is just as big as Pro's and that's the problem. Pro's spent month after month calling him an insect/moron and kid's taken it all. Now kid feels vindicated in his own mind and wants Pro on his knees along with all the rest of us.
It's vindication gone wrong. Kinda like the postal worker that's got a beef with the supervisor but takes it out on everyone else along the way?
Thus kid acting like a douche with most of us here.
Mind you, I am not a psychologist, I merely play one on daytime TV.
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Post by joefarina on Sept 10, 2012 22:10:19 GMT -5
SEND KID TO ONE PLEASE....THEY ARE ALL OVER WHERE HE RESIDES
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Post by newyorkled2008 on Sept 10, 2012 22:11:56 GMT -5
A circus or a psychiatrist?
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Post by tmarf on Sept 10, 2012 22:13:19 GMT -5
And what supremacy would kid obtain from this? Bad ass karma IMHO!
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Post by joefarina on Sept 10, 2012 22:16:34 GMT -5
HE IS THE CIRCUS......SEND HIM TO THE PSYCHE
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Post by tmarf on Sept 10, 2012 22:20:01 GMT -5
He is the shit that comes out of the elephants ass at the circus...
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Post by proforkodak on Sept 10, 2012 23:45:06 GMT -5
NY, Always trying to blame everything on me?
Kid ONLY cares about MONEY!!!
He is trying to MANIPULATE people so he can buy his stock back.
He UNDERSTANDS that he PANICKED!!
He is just a STUPID Wall st BUTT SNIFFER.... But he can READ my analysis of Kodak's businesses and NOW he realizes that Kodak does NOT need much from the DI patents because they have so many other assets.
Kid is a CRIMINAL!!!
CRIMINALS hide in the shadows and try to ROB people blind.
The FEDS are going to put Kid in PRISON, and I AM helping them.
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